understand -- >> they bicker though, the bottom line is these automatic cuts would largely hit the pentagon and as you talked about defense secretary leon panetta earlier testifying on benghazi. he also testified about these budget cuts. he said it would have a dramatic impact on the american people and the country's military readiness with all these big threats all around the world, shep. >> shepard: republicans aren't bending either here. >> no, they aren't. they are saying, look, they are not going to swallow more tax increases that the president laid out there a moment ago. and they also said that when you look at the latest fox news poll, take a look at what the american people are saying about how they don't want more tax increases, they want more spending cuts. when asked whether the president -- they agreed with the president saying the government does not have a spending problem, they think it does. 83% say yes, there is a spending problem. only 14% say no. and that's why senate republican leader mitch mcconnell says they are not going to bend on raising taxes. take a listen. >> th